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Charlene White recalls shocking conversation with Queen’s cousin on how his family ‘profited’ off slave trade

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Charlene White and Sir Trevor McDonald are hosting a new ITV documentary (Picture: ITV/Rex)

Charlene White has recalled the shocking conversation she shared with a cousin of the Queen, who acknowledged how his family had ‘profited’ off the slave trade.

Almost a year on from the murder of George Floyd in Minnesota, US and the global Black Lives Matter protests that followed, TV presenter Charlene and journalist Sir Trevor McDonald are hosting an ITV documentary investigating the impact that the events had on people in the UK.

In the hour-long film, Charlene and Sir Trevor speak to a range of individuals, including former professional footballer John Barnes, former cricketer Ebony Rainford-Brent, who was the first Black woman to play cricket for England, and athlete Bianca Williams, who made headlines last year when she and her partner were stopped and searched by police while in their car with their three-month-old son.

While speaking to, Charlene explained that one of the most ‘surprising’ conversations she had was with Earl David Lascelles, who is a first cousin once removed of Queen Elizabeth II and is 62nd in line to the throne.

The 70-year-old, whose ancestral home is Harewood House in Leeds, told the Loose Women star how a few years ago, he and his family went into the basement of the property and ‘found all of these papers that basically detailed the fact that they profited – quite well – from the slave trade, so that some of their money came from the backs of Black people, essentially’, Charlene said.

‘He talked about the fact that they were quite uncomfortable with that fact but they had a choice – it was something they could keep to themselves or it was something they could be really honest about and do something about,’ she recollected.


‘And they decided that actually, they needed to be honest about this and they needed to work out a way to pay back and – it’s the word that has been bandied about a lot in the past year – reparations.’

Charlene said that she found it ‘fascinating to talk to somebody who saw it in that way’, because often the conversations on the topic can result in people stating: ‘“Ah, we weren’t really connected to the slave trade in Britain, you know, Black people need to stop talking about it and they need to get over it”’.

She emphasised how even up until 2015, taxpayers in the UK were still paying back slave owners.

‘So if we were willing as taxpayers to keep paying that money to slave owners in the modern era, how can you possibly say and use the argument that it’s got nothing to do with British society now?’ she said.

Charlene said that she found it ‘quite inspiring’ to hear the Earl of Harewood be ‘so honest’ about his family’s discovery and their desire to ‘pay back their local community’.

David and his wife Diane Howse, Countess of Harewood decided to sell the collection of rum that was discovered in their home for approximately £200,000, using some of the money to fund a foundation supporting young people from diverse backgrounds in Leeds.

In the documentary, the Earl states that it was clear to the family that they could not benefit from the sale of the rum, which was the oldest and most expensive in the world.

‘I think it’s been easier, perhaps, for others in the past to say, “It’s a past issue,” despite the fact that they are in the upper echelons of society as a result of, oh my god, millions of Black people being killed, millions of Black people being tortured, millions of Black people being torn from their families in order to money people here,’ Charlene said.

‘I think that to speak to somebody who knows their family did that and me knowing that my family, by nature of being raised in the Caribbean, were torn from their families in Africa, it was a really fascinating conversation for me. Not always an easy one I think for me to have, but I think I learnt a lot from him.’

Looking back on her collaboration with Sir Trevor, Charlene said it was ‘something I never ever thought could ever happen’.

‘The thought of me working alongside Sir Trevor is still blowing my mind,’ she said. ‘It’s a subject that we are both hugely passionate about and we wanted to tell this story.’

Trevor McDonald & Charlene White: Has George Floyd Changed Britain? airs 9pm on Wednesday May 12 on ITV and ITV Hub.

Credit: Original article published here.

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